stripping off for someone else
Mar. 3rd, 2003 07:28 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I just got off the phone with
prettymouth. The conversation was cut short due to picking up one's sister from a dance class. *L* I would really love to have a cup of tea with her someday, talking about the world, etc....we have a lot in common and understand each other 'til this day, and that always feel really nice. I enjoy being understood because I don't think many people get me. :/
Oh yeah, this weekend I ended up in some weird artist gallery in the Warehouse District. Everybody I heard around me was like "oh, this is sooooo wonderful!" and "sooo magical". really? I didn't think so. I know I said at one point that I didn't like it, even though the artist himself was there. Well, if I think it's not good, that's my opinion.
With art and galleries in general, it amuses me how people can schmooze about how great something is, when the truth is, it's crap! I think a lot of "art" out there is crap. Hell, I think half of my paintings are crap! It's just so boring to hear all these modern artists trying to explain themselves all the fucking time!
The truth is, I feel like there needs to be something completely original once again. In a way, music-wise this is parellel to the late 70's. We had cooperate rock like Bread, Kansas like today's Creed and Nickelback *vomit* so, yeah, crap crap crap..
Then in the 70's' we had the emergence of punk. The New York Dolls, the Ramones, the (brilliant) Sex Pistols, etc....and it started a revolution.
The difference is, today the best we have to the alternative to cooperate rock is the Strokes, the White Stripes, etc......but the problem is, it's not starting any revolution of any sort. It's recycling bits from the 70's and making it their own, but it's not good enough for me.
I love the Strokes' music, mind you and Nick Valensi and Ryan Gentles were nice guys when I met them, but.....I feel like there's a void in the music industry. a BIG void.
Hopefully I can contibute to filling that void for myself at least.
and with that, I'm going to go practice my guitar and write lyrics. bye. xxx
ps- go see the movie Frida. It's steller.
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Oh yeah, this weekend I ended up in some weird artist gallery in the Warehouse District. Everybody I heard around me was like "oh, this is sooooo wonderful!" and "sooo magical". really? I didn't think so. I know I said at one point that I didn't like it, even though the artist himself was there. Well, if I think it's not good, that's my opinion.
With art and galleries in general, it amuses me how people can schmooze about how great something is, when the truth is, it's crap! I think a lot of "art" out there is crap. Hell, I think half of my paintings are crap! It's just so boring to hear all these modern artists trying to explain themselves all the fucking time!
The truth is, I feel like there needs to be something completely original once again. In a way, music-wise this is parellel to the late 70's. We had cooperate rock like Bread, Kansas like today's Creed and Nickelback *vomit* so, yeah, crap crap crap..
Then in the 70's' we had the emergence of punk. The New York Dolls, the Ramones, the (brilliant) Sex Pistols, etc....and it started a revolution.
The difference is, today the best we have to the alternative to cooperate rock is the Strokes, the White Stripes, etc......but the problem is, it's not starting any revolution of any sort. It's recycling bits from the 70's and making it their own, but it's not good enough for me.
I love the Strokes' music, mind you and Nick Valensi and Ryan Gentles were nice guys when I met them, but.....I feel like there's a void in the music industry. a BIG void.
Hopefully I can contibute to filling that void for myself at least.
and with that, I'm going to go practice my guitar and write lyrics. bye. xxx
ps- go see the movie Frida. It's steller.
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Date: 2003-03-03 07:05 pm (UTC)btw i got the email back from my sis. no one left in london. so no help from me. *:(
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Date: 2003-03-03 07:35 pm (UTC)that's okay about your connection, that's not a connection anymore. :)
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Date: 2003-03-03 07:35 pm (UTC)YES!!!
The so called 'new rock revoultion' is a joke created by the NME to make them seem important. Sex pistols brought us revoultion in music/ideas/etc the Strokes brought us a million 'the' bands who mostly all sound the same. Of course, if you look at it another way, punk was a 'fuck off' to prog bands and rock dinosaurs. There is a lot more things to say fuck off to now: coperate punk (aka pop-punk), coperate rock (as you said), nu-metal, 'the' bands and pop music! (as well as hip-hop and dance music) So we better start the revoultion soon, before someone else does! Not like I'd let them though. >:)
- Nick
P.S. This must be the longest comment I've put in anyones journal ;o
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Date: 2003-03-03 07:38 pm (UTC)Good thing we're going to be recording music together, cause we share those views. We're on the same path....:)
We do have a lot to rebel against, hence why I'm going to be curled up with my lyrics journal, writing, pondering, thinking too much, and debating on life itself..and why are people they way they are? why is society this the same as it is? ha! I just quoted myself from "Oxygen", a Slashing Beauty song :D
I'll be there next week Nick! let the revolution begin..
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Date: 2003-03-04 05:37 am (UTC)(before i begin... Frida ROCKS. that was such a kickass movie)
I was at the club listening to what turned out to be a highly 80's music night (which it wasnt. which amused me since i loved all the songs they played) and i realized that the most original music in my sleepy judgement is stuff that was written / performed during highly oppressive political times. The Reagan years brought about some of the most creative stuff. I think that you will see something similar now.
the biggest hinderance is that the music that will emerge will be immediately made popular by the mainstream alternative system. back in the day, 'alternative' did not exist. there was college radio, and less than a half a dozen commercial radio outlets for punk / goth / industrial music. Nowadays, we have half a dozen commercial radio chains in the US that own dozens of radio stations all cookie cutter. (oops. i'm slipping into a corp radio rant...) not only that, we have at least 3 music video channels. all making it much easier for a band to break out and become popular.
i think what it all means is that it has become extremely difficult to have original new music styles emerge. there are some bands that do it, and make dramatic changes in their sounds without having to bow to corporate pressures. but those bands are few and far between. (examples: Garbage, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck)
What you need to do is check out College radio stations. they typically have the best access to the newer unproven bands and their styles. whats hard is to weed out the crap from the good. commercial radio is filtering so much from us that when you dive into the college radio level you have much more chaff amongst the good.
sorry for blathering... you can kick my ass later for it.
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Date: 2003-03-04 12:39 pm (UTC)So I think that 770 can be *too* indie. Marc at Let it Be Records will back me up on that...
but I'm just pissy at the Strokes *L* because it took me a long time to admit I like them because I didn't want to because they're "trendy" and after I like them, then they're all hanging out with Drew Barrymore & Justin Timberlake! and that just cheapens it for me. *L*
I'm going off to the UK next week and I'm going to be (hopefully) recording some material with my friend Nick (see entry above) and we both have a lot to protest again, esp. in this day in age, so maybe something will come out of it, who knows?
and you're right about the best music coming from political eras. Look at the 60s? Bob Dylan? I do see some hints of political-ness recently, but it's all been in the form of crap like some patriotic Bruce Springsteen concert...
so I hope you're right and that there will be a revolution and I hope to be part of it.
take care. xx
we are gonna get along just fine...
Date: 2003-03-04 12:41 pm (UTC)in my opinion a stick in a box,or an un-made bed,or any kind of "found" object is NOT art.
art is a painting,drawing,sculpture,or something that has been made by the artists own hand at least!!
there are a lot of slackers making too much money from the stupidity of the people who buy this shit.hey - they're so thick,fuck them! let them waste their money,they desrve it!
end of rant.*ahem*
yes, I think we will!
okay, well, there's something anybody can buy at a hardware store, they hung it up on the wall, and they called in ART!
I mean, I might as well put this empty pepsi can in front of me on the wall and call it art *L*
anyway. *L*
Yeah, I worked in a boutique/art gallery type place this past year and you cannot believe some of the crap they had in there selling for hundreds of $$. Luckily, I was one of the more "popular" artists, so yay for me! *L* Well, maybe that's because I didn't paint a canvas all green and brown and that's it and put a hefty price tag on it!
okay, sorry, that was really long. end of rant *L*
keep in touch xx
Re: yes, I think we will!
Date: 2003-03-04 03:14 pm (UTC)although there IS a manolo blahnik shoe exhibition on there just now......
Re: yes, I think we will!
Date: 2003-03-04 03:58 pm (UTC)SHOCK! HORROR!
Date: 2003-03-05 10:54 am (UTC)Re: SHOCK! HORROR!
Date: 2003-03-05 01:10 pm (UTC)